rumor update
northside baseball thinks it's marquis and reyes for abreu. the thread confirms the existence of a memo from jocketty, and intimates that the move is imminent.
two posters in the comments thread over at mlbtraderumors had much the same to say:
Posted by: Sisyphus | November 29, 2005 at 10:38 AM
Posted by: Sanjay H. | November 29, 2005 at 01:15 PM
Update [2005-11-29 15:5:52 by lboros]: it looks as if abe nunez just signed with the phillies --- two years, $3.5 mill. besta luck to you, kid.
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Wow
And good for Abe. Would've been nice to keep him around, but it's nice to see guys who've had a career season cash in (especially if it's not on our payroll -- see "Womack, Tony")...
by DCRedbird on Nov 29, 2005 3:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
3rd team involved
by VanRam on Nov 29, 2005 3:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good for
by rockin redbird on Nov 29, 2005 3:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Money
I suppose we could restructure that deal, but we still need someone to play second base, as well as two starters. I like the idea of a free-for-all in left field though, with taguchi, gall, schumacker, and j.rod fighting it out in camp.
Is there anyone in the organization that thinks Wainwright is ready to start this year?
The Cubs thread also noted that we were likely to sign Paul Byrd if this deal went through.
by STLEdge on Nov 29, 2005 3:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hmm...
- Good for Abe
- Even with Paul Byrd, that still leaves the Cards one starting pitcher short...does that mean it'll be Thompson/Wainright for the 5th starter?
- If in fact that is what it means, I like it. Throwing Abreu in the lineup gives the Cards one seriously lethal batting order.
by Alxfritz on Nov 29, 2005 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Farm issues...
They gave up a relatively major league ready shortstop to Seattle. They send 2 pitchers to Philly. They've already brought up the kid with the 100mph fastball who's now their closer. And they STILL have McCarthy (who'll be the #5 starter this year) AND the center fielder ready to take over now that Rowand is gone.
Damn.
by sdrone on Nov 29, 2005 3:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jenks was just smarts,
by DanUpBaby on Nov 29, 2005 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If all
by cardsrul on Nov 29, 2005 3:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No way Wainwright would start in '06
Seems like a bit of a trifecta to sign Abreu then sign Byrd to replace Marquis then sign Burnett to replace Morris. Lots of moving parts. I hope Jocketty doesn't get burned waiting for Burnett and have to settle for the scrap heap.
by Red in Chicago on Nov 29, 2005 3:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Burnett's agent
by cardsrul on Nov 29, 2005 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One other thing
by Red in Chicago on Nov 29, 2005 3:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
buzz killer
Think about it, with Abreu you eat up a BIG hunk of a $90 mil payroll, add in the others on the wish list, and this deal starts to seem a little illogical. I for one don't care about the money; hey, it's not mine. But I do wonder if this would negatively impact the efforts/desires to get pitchers, starting and relieving, as well as a second baseman. Involving Reyes in the deal takes away from a key part of the team's hot stove strategy, namely having a near-sure thing and a CHEAP option to round out our pitching needs. With Reyes gone, the Cards need to replace his arm with a more expensive option (veteran) or a youngster at the same cost without the blue chip moniker in front of his name.
Abreu might be perfect for the team though, his bat always seems to go cold in the fall.
by VanRam on Nov 29, 2005 3:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I checked on
by Matt on Nov 29, 2005 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot
by Matt on Nov 29, 2005 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My theory...
by salvomania on Nov 29, 2005 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Abreu
But I doubt the Cards deal Reyes. Even Tony, hater of rookies, likes him. (Even if he did leave him off the playoff roster so King could waste a spot.) Abreu, in my mind, would be a much better option than Giles, though...
by Robb on Nov 29, 2005 4:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who Cares
by Retire 51 on Nov 29, 2005 4:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting...
by salvomania on Nov 29, 2005 4:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
RLRLRLRL
Abreu
Pujols
Edmonds
Rolen
Rodriguez
Molina
Some left-handed second baseman.
drools
by STLEdge on Nov 29, 2005 4:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
then the rotation would look awesome too
Carpenter
Mulder
Suppan (unless he gets traded)
replacement level SP at <$3 million
replacement level SP at <$3 million
by VanRam on Nov 29, 2005 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But, Has It Not Been Proven...
Could the Cards make the playoffs with two replacement-level starters and a replacement-level 2B? I think they could... even if their lead over Houston/Chicago WASN'T double-digits in September.
by The Ol Goaler on Nov 29, 2005 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Willie Harris
by flynn on Nov 29, 2005 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that
If we can get Abreu, a potential MVP candidate, in a trade for Reyes, then I think that the deal has to go through.
by Valatan on Nov 29, 2005 5:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here's the big deal
by cardsrul on Nov 29, 2005 6:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ah well
by uccellino on Nov 29, 2005 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ABREU YES
Add Burnett and Abreu and the St Louis Cardinals look incredible, i eman not incredible their my team and i have to root for em, i mean FUCKIN BADASS.
If WJ nabs Abreu and Burnett he makes the MEts look like clowns.
offer Burnett 5 years and lets get 'er done!!
by 2ndprize on Nov 30, 2005 1:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
hmm
Carp
Burnett
Mulder
Soup
with lineup of
Eckstein ss
Abreu rf
Pujols 1b
Edmonds cf
Rolen 3b
J-rod/Tags lf
Molina c
Luna 2b (i think he will be fine)
now just be creative in the bullpen and we be alright. hopefully a lefty in our minors works out, and thompson doesnt falter
by 2ndprize on Nov 30, 2005 1:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bernie says
by cardsrul on Nov 30, 2005 1:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
A choice..
or does he say, hey, in 2-3 years we will be a championship caliber team...
how long is WJ's contract? 2-3 years?
DO IT WALT DO IT
roll the dice baby...for you...win one for you...and we can all benefit:)
by 2ndprize on Nov 30, 2005 1:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
hmm
we signed a bunch of minor league guys so far...
this means to me, that we plan to fill holes in the majors 2b/lf/bullpen with some of our minor league guys(fine with me they pretty much won the NL central) and replace them in the minors with new signings.. then that free's up big money for a couple of studs...
i think a SP, OF or split between SP, OF and Bullpen..
i see it...
pull the trigger walt!!
abreu/burnett
giles/byrd
im telling you its imminent, if not, walt banking on 2007 or 2008 and i guess thats ok too..:(
cept edmonds deserves to be there! and who knows how long rolen lives...and we only got mulder for cheap one more year..and carpenter is an enigma, and eckstein's style of play catch up to him soon.
by 2ndprize on Nov 30, 2005 1:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs



















